This marks my 400th post! Where, oh where, does the time go? I figure that the phrase "Go Big Or Go Home" should apply to all major milestones and a 400th blog post should be no exception.
I told you earlier in the week that I watched a Lisa Ling documentary on the Oprah network recently about Christianity and homosexuality called Our America: Pray the Gay Away? . The premise of the documentary was to look at the question of weather or not one can be both gay and Christian at the same time. I'll be honest- I was expecting to watch this documentary and cringe all the way through it. I am unashamedly a Christian- meaning that I have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I find that usually documentaries like this portray Christians in an overtly negative and skewed way. This one was no exception- but it did make me think about how to verbalize my thoughts on "the church" in regards to inclusion and equality. I'm in no way a theologian. I've read the Bible, but I'm just a mom sitting in her kitchen shaking children of her legs. Take my thoughts for what you will. They are just that- my thoughts. I like to visit churches and have been in a whole lot of churches over the course of my lifetime. I've been in some churches who totally get it right and some who totally miss the mark. These thoughts are not always about my specific church, but about the church as a whole.
Growing up in a small country church, I don't remember anyone who was black, gay or single parenting ever gracing the doors of our church. When I grew up and changed churches, I find that it is still mostly the case. I love my church- but I fit the "norm". I am white, middle class, and married to a man. I always wonder if any of these characteristics about me were different, would I still be as accepted? As I watched the documentary, I watched gay men walk into church. They were searching for something- God, peace, connection- something. Every now and then, they were welcomed with open arms into a church. But more often than not, the church immediately began to work on these men to change them, giving them books about how to erradicate their femine ways and embrace God's plan for masculinity and praying over them to be "healed" from their homosexuality. The documentary followed how conflicted these men felt as they worked through choosing between being themselves and having a relationship with God.
I laid awake that night not understanding why you can't have both. I think that many times, today's modern church is a conglomerate of man made rules and conventions that often deviate from the message of love and inclusion that Jesus preached. It is a place where damaged and fallen people go to feel good about themselves and put on the mask that they have it all together. We use the church as a staging area for our good works, instead of a staging area for building deeper faith. In doing so, we alienate all those fallen people who walk through the doors without their masks on who are seeking an authentic relationship with Christ. When word got out that our adoption adjustment wasn't super peachy, I felt really ignored in our church. Many people stopped reaching out. People didn't understand what we were going through and thus we kind of fell through the cracks. Our struggles were seen on the outside and since they weren't the things that churches rally around (illnesses and deaths) we found ourselves in no man's land. For a long time, this shook my faith. Until I realized that my disappointment was not in Jesus- but in people. Jesus got it. He understood my pain, my hurt and my unfathomable guilt. And he delivered people who supported me and lifted me up- but it wasn't through the church. Many of those people were Christians, but it made me think that something happens to us when we walk through the doors of the church. We take our selves and we bend to convention. We conform to the idea that we must present our perfection. God's not looking for perfection- but authenticity and communion with him. Unfortunately, I think what we are looking for and expecting as a church is exactly the opposite. We stamp out authenticy. We call it sin and we demand perfection.
It wasn't long ago that author Ann Rice denounced herself as a Christian and called herself a Christ Follower. I get it. I have often found myself feeling like sometimes the church and it's endless stream of meetings and drama actually pull me away from doing the work that Christ has laid out for my life. I look around at churches with their lack of diversity and wonder if sometimes as a church we are sending a message to "keep out!". I heard a man speak a couple of weeks ago about a church that he started that meets in a community building in an impoverished inner city neighborhood. He said that most of the people that come to the church are in some stage of addiciton recovery. He talked about how many addicts often come through their doors who are strung out, drunk and hurting. Is this not the time when someone needs Christ the most? But I look around most of the churches that I know and visit and can't help but think that they would look at that addict and sit in their pews and cast judgement because we don't want that in "our" church. We are more comfortable leaving people who's sins that we deem worse than ours for the more inner city "missional" churches. When need comes walking through our door, we panic. We panic without realizing that our own need for redemption is just as great- even if it is less glaring or unseen. I feel like this same thing goes for anyone who doesn't fit the manmade "perfect Christian mold". We ostracize homosexuals, felons, people of different races, etc. and then we wonder why people hate Christians.
We hear sermons from the pulpit about God's design for families. Mom. Dad. Kids. Period. We alienate single moms, divorced couples, and families that are made in unconventional ways.
I know people who attend churches where the history of racism is so entrenched that if an African American came in the doors, it would probably stop the service. Likewise, I have spoken with my gay friends who feel so judged by the church that they feel they have nowhere to go to further their relationship with Christ within a communtiy of believers. I've seen it happen. We've taken teenagers who are searching for faith and because of their sexual orientation, we've condemned then and turned them against Christ because Christians are not being good ambassadors of Christ's love.
I think we spend so much time as Christians puffing ourselves and our goodness up, that we forget it is about bringing others to a loving and personal relationship with Jesus. We forget that the things that separate others from God are the same things that separate us from God. Sin is sin is sin. Judgement is a sin. It seems to me the ultimate anomoly. In judging people for their perceived separation from God, we in turn separate ourselves.
Christ said that above all else, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and love your neighbor as yourself." Not judge your neighbor. Not turn your back on your neighbor. Not welcome your neighbor to church only if they fit the mold. He said LOVE your neighbor. We are people. We have a guidebook for our faith that is written by other people. If we take man out of the equation and focus on our relationship with Jesus, I think we will find that all the labels fall off. Those labels are between each of us and our creator- not to use against one another. Because someone is gay, does that mean that they have less of a heart for God? Or because a woman is an unwed mother does that mean that her family is less pleasing to God? I think not. I think that the ultimate reason that each of us is created is because there is something unique in each person that delights God. I think that all the circumstances that bring us to each point in life, create that uniqueness in us that brings pleasure to Him. He created those things in us for his delight for a reason. Even though we don't always understand different lifestyles, cultures, or behaviors- doesn't mean that they are wrong or that they separate us from God. I think that God created YOU to be YOU and man's judgement is inconsequential. When the church becomes a place where ALL people are truly welcomed and valued, only then do I feel like we are carrying out the true mission of the church to bring ALL the world to know Him.
If only we spent as much time spreading messages of acceptance and inclusion as we do casting stones...
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Read this blog article right before yours...about the need for transparency about struggles as Christians/within the Church
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My favorite commandment was Jesus's last: John 13:34: "Love one another as I have loved you."
ReplyDeleteTo me it is that simple. To me this expresses God MORE than any other thing. Because most of his other commandments tell us what he does NOT want us to do: don't put other things ahead of God, don't kill/steal/commit adultery/covet, etc.. but DO..DO.. LOVE ONE ANOTHER. (And honor your mother and father, you rotten kids!)
I think you said it well. My best friend is gay and he loves the Lord. I am a Christian and I always have a hard time with this topic. Love is the only answer. It is not up to me to decide who is wrong or right. I am just as broken as everyone else, no matter what people see when they look at me, my husband and my two children and my "perfect" life.
ReplyDeleteThis is one that really makes me think. I don't believe that anyone is in a position to judge anyone else's salvation. We are all sinners and as such fall short of the glory of God.
ReplyDeleteAs for our church, I can hear you on that one. I have found as an outsider it is that much harder to break into in that front. We fit the typical mode but other than a welcoming at the very beginning it was up to us to forge the relationships and that has just started to happen after 8 years.
I think that people are also afraid of what they do not understand. I know that before I had started reading your blog I had no idea about attachment or anything else to do with adoption. I wouldn't have even to known to ask the questions. I think so many people suffer in silence bit put on the good face for others that you end up suffering alone. I know for me people would like to stay on the surface and not deal with the real challenges. The people who judge so quickly are the ones most likely to never take the time to really know anyone new. I was new. I was initially welcomed but not included. We have thought of going elsewhere but then we ran into the problem that with Glen's old job that most churches would not allow either of us to work with the youth.
I really get the Christian vs Christ Follower thing. Christian is easy and people want to take the path of Lear resistance. Christ Follower is hard. You have to want it and you have to work for it. I know for me I like a challenge.
Sorry for the ramble.
I just fell in love with you all over again! This topic is why I did not go to church forever. I finally found a place that is accepting of everyone. They truly love everyone and act to help those (immigrants, gay rights, etc.) I remember I knew I was in the right church when our Pastor got up and and started his sermon saying, "What I am about to say might get me fired, but it is what I believe and I feel the need to share it with you." He then talked about how church's should welcome gay people and accept them, love them. I was so proud him and of our church people as he recieved so much support for this.
ReplyDelete"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders." 1 Corinthians 6:9.
ReplyDeleteThe Bible is clear on homosexuality. But yes, we should welcome all people into church attendance (not necessarily membership). We often forget about church discipline and excommunication. These are laid out in the NT. And don't forget about Matthew 7:5 which people often leave out of "do not judge"
"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
I think you did a wonderful job of speaking to our lack as a body to show Jesus to all. We are all sinners saved by grace and that has to be at the forefront of everything we do, say, and think in regard to others.
ReplyDeleteI think we need to be careful of glossing over Truth in light of our society's desire for it to be relative. The body is called to love but there is Truth that lines up with the character of God that can not and should not be refuted.
This quote,
"Even though we don't always understand different lifestyles, cultures, or behaviors- doesn't mean that they are wrong or that they separate us from God."
is true only in light of the Truth. There are lifestyles and behaviors that are sin and we do our fellow believers an injustice if we don't speak the Truth in love.
Having said that, I do believe we could all have a few lessons in what "love" really is. I certainly wouldn't want someone to give me the false impression that my sin was "okay" because the body was giving me that impression from their false idea of "loving me". We do have an obligation to believers to encourage them to live a life that is resolving to be more like Christ. That can only come with relationship and permission.
Hello there! I've been following you for a while but I don't think I've ever commented before.
ReplyDeleteIt's interesting - I was talking about this with my husband a bit last night. I really do believe God is quite clear on the topic of homosexuality - it's wrong. But I have a problem with the way that Christians and churches in general have treated homosexuals. The way that Christians have openly condemned, embarrassed, and hated gay people is just not okay.
You have a great point. People coming through the doors of churches are hurting and looking for something more, and it is a downright shame that many Christians can't step up to the plate and offer the hope and love that Jesus offers (you know, what we are SUPPOSED to be doing). What a lot of Christians seem to forget is that trying to force non-Christians to conform to Biblical principles isn't going to work (we can't expect people who don't believe it to follow it - 1 Cor. 2:14). And in 1 Corinthians 5:9&10, Paul says, “When I wrote to you before, I told you not to associate with people who indulge in sexual sin. But I wasn't talking about unbelievers who indulge in sexual sin.” (Check out the entire passage for the full context.) We are not supposed to avoid or condemn them, but to love them! Come ON, church!
But then we have the sticky issue of those who proclaim Christ as Lord of their lives but continue to blatantly live in sin. Don't get me wrong, I know we are all sinners and are all in desperate need of Christ's love and mercy. I'm talking about the people who know they are sinning and don't care. In 1 Corinthians 5:12 Paul talks about not judging people who are not Christians, but he also says that as believers, we actually are supposed to judge other Christians. Or in other words, we are to hold each other accountable. I don’t think it looks the way a lot of people envision it, and I think more often than not, the church gets it wrong. After all, this does not void the command to love others as we love ourselves! We are to speak the truth in love and to follow the Matthew 18 principle of conflict resolution.
I have had several gay friends, and one of my best friends was gay until he accepted Christ as his personal Lord and Saviour and felt the need to turn his life around. I feel like homosexuality is so much more complex than most people realize, and unless we have been there ourselves, we won't fully understand what they go through or what it's like.
I think there is so much more that could be discussed or debated on this issue, and it really does make me sad that for the most part, Christians and the church just don’t handle it well. I am blessed to be a part of a church body that, while by no means is perfect, at least tries to welcome and love all people, no matter their situation in life or their orientation. Christ’s love is not limited to any one group or one kind of people.
I think it is important for Christians to really pray and dig into the Bible to see what God has to say about homosexuality before forming solid opinions on the issue. But along with that, we need to remind ourselves what God says about loving others and how to treat them. If we could just tie those two things together, this might not be so difficult.
My hope in commenting is not to make anybody angry or to stir things up, but to get involved in a discussion in which things are openly shared and considered. I firmly believe that the Bible is God’s Word and that it is truth, so I won’t sway from that, but at the same time, I am more than willing to listen to what others have to say!
I will leave you with an article I read recently: http://bit.ly/hVyt8J
Well said....
ReplyDeleteI love you Megan!! Everything you wrote is so true!! We have started having church at home to teach our children about what the bible states about God's love and Jesus' devotion to saving mankind NOT about judging others and excluding others for not fitting a typical church "mold".
ReplyDeleteAnd yes Stori attends a great church that preaches love for all, we just don't do very well at getting up early on Sundays to join them!! :)
Long time lurker!
ReplyDeleteLOVE this post! You said everything I think, but so much better.
Thank you
Teri
I think it's a lot simpler than people make it. All sinners welcome at the door no questions asked, if there weren't sinners, there would be no church. However, Paul instructs us for the one living in willful sin to be approached by friends, then the church, then booted out if they wouldn't repent. Just as you would any other thief or cheater in the church. Why does homosexuality have to be so less of a sin than any other? If you're having an affair, and you want to get right with the lord, you say goodbye to your lover, it's the same thing. Frankly, i don't think the church needs to do much; if they are truly saved, the Holy Spirit would convict them of their lifestyles. It's the friends and small groups that help folks stay accountable and certainly a willful homosexual should never hold a church position. So the church itself doesn't need to do much besides screen their church staff.
ReplyDeleteThe Bible does not address two same sex people in a loving and committed relationship. It discusses acts of homosexuality and when discussed, it is listed with other aspects of power/authority through sexual acts. I might not be saying this clearly, but "back in the day," forced sexual encounters were sometimes used to show/display/exert power over someone. I highly doubt that committed, loving homosexuals are doing so because they want power over their partner.
ReplyDeleteI confess, I am nowhere near an expert on Scriptures, the Bible or otherwise. But, like any other written text, it has been open to human interpretation and translation for hundreds and hundreds of years. Is everything in the Bible interpreted literally? Has nothing of it changed over time? Of course it has. In different eras, in different societies, it has been interpreted in different ways by mortal, flawed beings.
ReplyDeleteI think as human beings we have to be very careful to proclaim righteousness and judge other people. For one thing, I don't think Homosexuality is comparable to other 'sins'. Is homosexuality intently hurtful to other people when in the context of a loving, faithful relationship? No. Sexuality is about loving someone, giving pleasure to someone, homosexual or heterosexual. What part of that is malicious and deceitful? So to compare it to murder, theft, adultery is not really fair.
How can we excuse the murder of people in Iraq? God Bless America as we kill thousands of innocent bystanders, young soldiers and 'terrorists' who know no better than what they have been taught to believe.
How can we excuse the people who live in their big fancy homes, eat too much and drive huge air polluting vehicles whilst there are children dying of starvation and dealing with the garbage of their disposable lifestyles?
How can we forgive a person who inflicted pain, suffering, and anguish on a family because of his addiction?
Now, I do not mean to judge the above mentioned people, but I am using them to illustrate that God has given us a brain to apply common sense to interpret His word. It is not to be taken literally and believed blindly.
And to me there are far greater 'sins' than homosexuality that are tolerated everyday by the church such as greed, gluttony, intolerance and indifference.
All that I know is that come Judgement Day those who have cast stones and made life miserable for people of other sexual orientations, religious beliefs, cultures, class or whatever sets them apart from the 'norm' in North America better be damn sure their convictions are correct. I believe that God wants me to express love, not hate, and I would rather err on the side of being accepting and tolerant of humanity and all its faults than hide myself in a man-made bubble of righteousness.
I truly value and respect all of the opinions that are represented here and the mannor in which they are shared. I think my purpose to bringing up this topic was not really to debate the morality of homosexuality, but to say that people of all walks of life are searching for Jesus and as a church we need to be prepared to open our arms to helping people come to a relationship with Him. Not send them packing out the door or leave them to flounder on their own. And for each of us to realize that by putting on the front of having it all together to perpetuate the idea of perfect Christians just leaves all of us a a body of believers unable to experience true communion with one another.
ReplyDeleteMegan,
ReplyDeleteThis is a great post! The focus on Christianity and homosexuality is kind-of fascinating to me.
ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. ALL. I'm a sinner who does not deserve God's grace, neither does anyone else. We are not called to judge, but to love. It's the job of the Holy Spirit to convict if need be. As a body we have to be more welcoming and Jesus was the perfect example of this.
And not to argue the morality of homosexuality, but many people say it's worse because it is a lifestyle, not just a single sin, but most of us live in some type of lifestyle sin...is a mom who spends to much time on the internet and yells her kids doing the same thing...what about the mom who buys stuff and hides it from her husband only to lie later to him???? We're all sinners, and in need of God's grace.
Oh no...that wasn't ed, that was Chelese. Somehow I'm logged in as my husband!!!
ReplyDelete"And for each of us to realize that by putting on the front of having it all together to perpetuate the idea of perfect Christians just leaves all of us a a body of believers unable to experience true communion with one another."
ReplyDeleteLove that sentiment Megan. You are such an eloquent writer:)
"Sin is sin is sin. Judgement is a sin. It seems to me the ultimate anomoly. In judging people for their perceived separation from God, we in turn separate ourselves."
ReplyDeleteWow, never thought of it this way. I really appreciate your thoughts on this issue. Thanks for sharing
WOW! You said (very well I might add) the things that I have been thinking forever. A very long time ago I was a preachers kid and after years and years of seeing these things I dropped out of church for 7 years because I was so tired of these people that called themselves "Christians." Finally God brought friends into my life that got me back into church.
ReplyDeleteFor the last 9 months we have attended a very small church (a true hidden treasure). This little church was only a few blocks from our home but I just figured it was like the churches I grew up in because it was a small church in a small town with people in it that have gone for years. I was very surprised to find a row of drug addicts in the church when we first started. Not only were they sitting there but they were being loved on by the church. One very young man sitting in that row dies a couple months later of cancer but he knew he was going to heaven the day he died.
I was raised in a church that was very judging and sometimes to be honest I have a hard time not judging and just loving. I am trying so hard though to have a heart like God's and just love and not judge even though I fail often.
You need to write a book!
I loved this post - thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and your heart. Some background: My husband and I are both Christians. I am my husband's second wife; his first wife divorced him after she decided to be true to herself and live life as a lesbian.
ReplyDeleteI see this issue as a civil rights issue. As you said, love as God first loved us. Treat others as you would wish to be treated. It's not about whether their actions are right or wrong... it's about whether OUR actions are right or wrong.
I recently read an article that was detailing what young people attributed to Christians. A huge majority of them could only respond to the interviewer by saying that Christians hated homosexuals. This just broke my heart. Hate is the one thing that Christians have so clearly set out for us in the Bible...it isn't in there.
ReplyDeleteJesus spent his time with people who needed him, not the people who didn't. And Paul said he had become all things to all men so that they might know Jesus. Church, what are we doing? Rockstars are bringing awareness to the AIDS crisis, not us. And while we're too busy debating someone's sexuality, we are losing the chance to show someone Christ's love.
Thank you for starting a conversation.
Megan, Jesus did indeed preach the message of love, but he also preached the message of repentance.
ReplyDeleteIf we are a true follower of Jesus, we must admit that we are sinners, that Christ died for our sins, was
buried and resurrected, and we must confess Him as our Lord and Savior and strive to live a life that is
pleasing to Him. Sin separates us from God. If we are a true Christian we must daily repent of our
sins. To continue to live in our sin, any sin, affects our relationship with Him. No, we are not perfect,
but that doesn’t give us permission to continue to live in our sin. We must daily die to ourselves, take
up His cross and follow Him. I admit the church body needs to do a better job of loving our neighbor,
but in doing so, we can’t condone the sin. We must love the sinner but hate the sin.
Very interesting...came across your post from Rage Against the Machine. You really hit home to me in so many of your points. I'm a lesbian married for 7.5 years with 2 wonderful children. We attend the United church which is open to all people. I find it hard to connect with God and any kind of faith because it is often used to exclude people and start wars. It's not all religious people but enough that it has made me question my faith and the idea of being called a Christian. Many people use their faith to make themselves feel "perfect" and judge others. The image that is being presented everywhere really makes many people turn away from it. I always find it interesting when people judge as if they are God themselves or pick and choose what they'd like to quote from the Bible. I just have so many issues with the whole concept of religion that I really question taking my kids to church when I don't feel committed to it myself. Too many questions and hurt to embrace Christianity sometimes...
ReplyDeleteThank you for posting this for many reasons.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, I'm sorry that you felt forgotten during your time of need.
Thank you for writing about the need for inclusiveness in the church. I agree with you greatly. The church is called to first be a welcoming community to all people.
As stated above the church is called to welcome all people. Christ's love is for all despite our past or our present circumstances. I do believe that the church is also called to challenge people to grow in their walk with Christ. This is where we are called to challenge people to move past sins in their life in order to grow in their relationship with God.
Jesus' invitation to "come and follow me" was much "less inclusive" many times than we typically think. In fact Jesus said many things that he knew would turn many people off and that their response to follow him would not be likely.
In John 6:53-71 we find one of the hardest teachings from Jesus. It was such a hard teaching that many disciples deserted Jesus.
We also see Jesus hold Peter accountable in Matthew 16 where he says "get behind me Satan...you do not have the things of God in mind."
Then there is the story of the rich young ruler whom Jesus raises the stakes of following him by saying, "Sell everything you have and come follow me." The ruler made a choice not to sell and went home sad.
These scriptures have made me struggle with what does it mean to invite people into being a "Christ Follower" without weakening the invitation? Yes, Jesus' love, acceptance and forgiveness is for all and the church should welcome all through its doors and into the fellowship and membership of the body despite the different things we all have going on in our lives. Yet true "following of Christ" occurs when we let go of the sins that hold us back and move on towards the goal of being like Christ and challenging others to do the same. In doing this talking to others and allowing others to talk to me about the sin in my life must take place. It isn't the first conversation a church has when someone walks through the door, but to avoid the conversation is to avoid growing in our walks with Christ.
The hot button issue right now for all denominations (even non-denominational) is homosexuality. Many non-denominational churches have taken a hard stance against homosexuality and to hard of a stance in my opinion. All are welcome to the communion (coming from a Methodist perspective on communion)table so all should be welcomed into the fellowship of the body.
When someone professes belief in Christ one of their commitments is repentance from sin. This is where the hard work starts because you have to define "what is sin" and then have to start working on overcoming the sin in our lives.
I personally believe that homosexuality is outside of God's will for our lives, but so is premarital sex, going to strip clubs, looking at porn, etc. The sad thing is that while porn viewers, people involved in premarital sex, strip club goers, etc have been accepted with open arms when they walk through the doors of the church homosexuals have not. All people regardless of sin should be welcomed equally, but all people should be challenged to follow after Christ by rejecting the sin in their life and reaching out to the world around them.
My biggest hope is that people who disagree on this topic may enter into healthy dialogue so that the truth can be found...I bet it is somewhere in the middle.
Derek Robinette
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ReplyDeleteMegan I heve just fiished a quick book that I thing would really impact your thoughts on the subject. It really spoke to my heart and gave be me a guide line to cousel other Christians on this topic. It lays out all the different kind of Christians. ( what there good traits are and what their downfalls. ). After the full analysis it shows us in not such a great light and that the "next great christians see things a little differently. "They work with each other to forward the cause.
ReplyDeleteI can NOT tell you how incredibly life changing the book has been in transferring my paradigm. I grew up in a world where I "hated the word Christian. It implied stuck up judgemental and being
inclusive in my world. There is a whole new restoration happening in America and all need to be aware of it. Could not recommend this book more and I have read a ton!!!
The Next Christians
Gabe Lyons
How a new generation Is restoring the Fath.
Great, great, great stuff. Have your old man read it too. Love you guys.
Tim Ott
My grandparents and my parents went to a church and brought my brother and I up in that church as well. I am gay and was no longer welcome as a contributing member to the workings of the church. My father became an alcoholic and after 30 years he was no longer allowed to give communion. He couldn't even collect the money. My mother's friends do not call to see how she is or how she is dealing with his disease. But it is the church that has failed and not God or Jesus.
ReplyDeleteI work as a nurse and believe I work as God's servant to take care of His people.
I am annoyed with going to a church that has to mention homosexuality in any way. I want to be welcomed yes but the churches I have gone to who welcome gays seem to have a political agenda at times. I do not go to church as a homosexual but to hear about God's love and forgiveness for all. If it is a sin I will be judged by Him just as everyone else will be. Did Jesus die for just SOME sinners? He died for all. We individually pay the price for our sins. It is between us and God.